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Comment by Karen Chun on January 26, 2012 at 1:50pm

Just got off the phone with Rep Angus McKelvey (West Maui) chair of the committee that killed HB2288 (track your internet pages) He gave me permission to tell the inside story on this:

Rep. Kymberly Pine (R) was all hot for this bill. McKelvey, because he is a technical guy, immediately saw all the problems with the bill. But, he told me,

"You can't kill a bill and make sure it stays dead unl...ess you HEAR the bill".

He also wanted to get all the tech guys to come, testify and get all the problems with the bill on the record.

So he got the testimony against the bill on the record, exposed Rep Pine for creating it and then killed it dead, dead, dead.

So no need for my panicked call to his office...he was 3 steps ahead of me in the chess game and had already checkmated the bill's proponents.See More


My thoughts: Now we are just left with the question, why would a DEMOCRAT (John Mizuno) go along with this?

            Perhaps the fact that John Mizuno sponsored a bill demanding that all people living in govt subsidized housing be drug testing may give us a clue.

            I'm not feeling sorry for the blizzard that is descending on Mizuno any more.

Comment by John Philpin on January 26, 2012 at 1:34pm

bit by bit 'our' 'representatives' - both words used advisedly and with a certain amount of tongue in cheek - will begin to understand that they need to understand stuff before they start to suggest legislation to improve their subjects lives.

Comment by Karen Chun on January 26, 2012 at 1:29pm

LOL!!  Kudos to whoever created JohnMizuno.com!!! - sounds like something I'd do but I didn't do it ..hand to heart.  But I am a huge fan of whoever did create it!

Comment by David B. Fisher on January 26, 2012 at 12:56pm

I would think there would be remedies for this kind of harassment.  Attorneys?

Not sure the cause is helped by someone creating http://JohnMizuno.com and linking it to the CNET article.

Comment by Daniel Leuck on January 26, 2012 at 12:43pm

David Fisher: A new marketing slogan:  What happens in Hawaii stays in Hawaii...on servers accessible by the government for two years.

LOL! This is good. Pat suggested we introduce an opposing bill called the "Protect Children from Hawaiian Bears Act". That sounds even scarier than pornography.

David Fisher: I am really curious to find out how this came about.

CNET reporter Declan McCullagh presented a theory in his article: "Pine, who did not immediately respond to queries, has been targeted by a disgruntled Web designer, Eric Ryan, who launched KymPineIsACrook.com and claims she owes him money, according to an article last summer in the Hawaii Reporter. Her e-mail account was also reportedly hacked around the same time. The article said Pine would advocate for "tougher cyber laws at the Hawaii State Capitol" as a result. "

posted to the blog to give this conversation front page attention.

Comment by scott weeks on January 26, 2012 at 11:54am

:: I am really curious to find out how this came about.

See this page:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57366443-281/hawaii-may-keep-trac...

where is says, "Pine, who did not immediately respond to queries, has been targeted by a disgruntled Web designer, Eric Ryan, who launched KymPineIsACrook.com and claims she owes him money, according to an article last summer in the Hawaii Reporter. Her e-mail account was also reportedly hacked around the same time. The article said Pine would advocate for "tougher cyber laws at the Hawaii State Capitol" as a result.


"We must do everything we can to protect the people of Hawaii from these attacks and give prosecutors the tools to ensure justice is served for victims," Pine said at the time."

Comment by Karen Chun on January 26, 2012 at 11:50am

http://hawaii.news.blogs.civilbeat.com/post/16537242306/house-commi...

Bill tabled in Rep McKelvey's committee.  But we need to talk to Angus and make him see that ANY bill along these lines will be toxic to whoever supports it.

Comment by Peter Liu on January 26, 2012 at 11:48am

FYI I'm using #HB2288 as a hashtag unless someone has a better idea.

Comment by Light Maleski on January 26, 2012 at 11:42am
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=57366443&cid=null&bcid=&...

It might have something to do with a disgruntled and payment short by one of these lawmakers.
Comment by David B. Fisher on January 26, 2012 at 11:38am

Civil Beat is tweeting that the bill has been tabled.  They also reported that their was passionate testimony for and against this a.m.  Here is a link to their report earlier today http://hawaii.news.blogs.civilbeat.com/post/16533158404/hawaii-may-...

I am a subscriber to Civil Beat.  It is possible that you won't be able to read this unless you are.  Evidently this is coming from some cyber harassment that took place last summer with Rep. Kimberly Pine.

 

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