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Comment by David B. Fisher on January 26, 2012 at 11:38am

Civil Beat is tweeting that the bill has been tabled.  They also reported that their was passionate testimony for and against this a.m.  Here is a link to their report earlier today

I am a subscriber to Civil Beat.  It is possible that you won't be able to read this unless you are.  Evidently this is coming from some cyber harassment that took place last summer with Rep. Kimberly Pine.

Comment by Don Gilmore on January 26, 2012 at 11:38am

Dear Rep Mizuno,

While you're at it, an excellent idea would be to require all Hawaiians to keep their cell phone on and to log all conversations and timestamped geo-coordinates into a government-accessible database. Of course, hackers can access the data too, which should assist in vigilantism and crowd-sourced law enforcement.

Comment by Karen Chun on January 26, 2012 at 11:37am

BTW, McKelvey's assistant said there was lots of negative testimony (she was watching session on TV) and seemed to understand what I was saying loud and clear.

And when I talked to Mizumo's assistant, she seemed alarmed and surprised that there was so much pushback on this bill.  I have hopes that he will see the light and save us a time-consuming campaign to bring the bill down (which will unfortunately for him tend to end his political career also)

Comment by Karen Chun on January 26, 2012 at 11:34am

I have to think that someone (Homeland Security?) came to him and requested this bill since why would he think it up himself.  I called his office 808-586-6050 and (very nicely) clued him in that there was a huge outcry on facebook and various internet sites with plans to make a youtube video mocking him etc. etc.  I did this because I don't want to see someone brought down because he maybe was tricked into sponsoring this by some over-reaching spook.

And better we get this killed gracefully than have to go into overdrive to fight it.  I'm waiting on the vote. 

Also called Angus McKelvey's office and gave him a heads up that anyone associated with this bill is going to have the wrath of the internet rain down on them so he shouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.  Wish I'd gotten to him earlier, because the Chair of a committee can stop a bill dead (McKelvey is chair of ERB.)  Unfortunately he won't hear what I've said until the meeting is pau.

Comment by Roxanne Darling on January 26, 2012 at 11:26am

David - I have been asking that question and included it in the testimony I just submitted. It is highly relevant to the discussion!

John - Yes that is what it says. will email all representatives. :-)

Comment by John Philpin on January 26, 2012 at 11:21am

thinking about Jerry Isdale's point below, does really go to ALL reps ??

The link Jerry already shared : has this at the top of the page ...

Comment by David B. Fisher on January 26, 2012 at 11:21am

I am really curious to find out how this came about.

Comment by Peter Liu on January 26, 2012 at 11:18am

Thanks, Karen. What gets me is this guy is in the legislature. Lawyers, right? Do they actually read the Law of the Land?

Comment by Karen Chun on January 26, 2012 at 11:14am

David - I don't see that they can even require Time Warner, Verizon, AT&T and so on to do this from the state level.  Seriously violates the interstate commerce clause, IMO.  And I'll be laughing so hard when these huge, powerful, RICH corporations start funding his opponents because they're so p'o'd

Comment by Karen Chun on January 26, 2012 at 11:12am

Yes, Peter - I'd love to see a video of Rep Mizuno attempting to justify this bill.  In addition to outraging his constituents, I bet it would be hilarious in its cluelessnes about what he thinks he's proposing vs what he's ACTUALLY proposing.


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