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Comment by Patrick Ahler on October 14, 2010 at 4:05pm
Quick Wordpress question... I know it's a blog centric CMS, seems to work great for niche websites too, but has anyone ever used it in a large non-blog related website deployment? ie. 300+ pages? Any issues?
Comment by Paul Graydon on June 14, 2010 at 12:50pm
Ahh the fun stuff of probes. They bring down many sites for all sorts of reasons, and mostly unexpected ways too. Can be a pain to track down the actual problem too, particularly if you don't have direct access to the server :-/

Keep an eye out for User-Agents in the access logs if you can. There has been an upsurge recently in and similar search engine bots that aren't paying attention to robots.txt properly (no matter what they claim), and be sure to have a good robots.txt (if you haven't already).

It's relatively trivial to redirect certain users with certain agent-strings to 403s if you can use .htaccess files on your system :D


SetEnvIfNoCase User-Agent "^Yandex*" bad_bot
Order Deny,Allow
Deny from env=bad_bot

From a security perspective I've got the "Secure Wordpress" plugin installed which returns some interesting things and handles a lot of the security stuff.
Comment by MediaBaron on June 14, 2010 at 12:25pm
This was NOT a caching problem. I have very good caching in place on my site, I've sustained tens of thousands of real pageviews in the course of hours with my site not going down. We're talking like over 40K pageviews over a half a day.

The problem was related a little to hotlinking but mostly due to web attacks probing my site for exploits. I hardened my site's directories, denied some offending domains in my htaccess file and have gotten it under control.

I know the first reaction is to tell folks to cache but in my case what I needed to do was way beyond that.

WP-Cache is outdated and should not be used. SuperCache is better, but even better yet is a combo of HyperCache and DB Cache Reloaded. HyperCache will cache page contents while DBCR will cache database files. The combo is really excellent.

W3 Total Cache is also good but can be daunting to set-up all the controls. Plus it may not be fully compatible with my host which uses NFS for its file format on the servers.

If you want to check-out how secure your WordPress install is visit:

And run your domain through the scanner. You may be a bit surprised. I hardened my site so the only real info it returns is that I'm on Apache, hosted by Dreamhost and am using the WP theme Gazette. All of which you can easily find out by looking at Whois or via the page source code.

I urge any of you WP users to run your site through that scanner. They even have tips on how to harden your site. Do it now, don't wait.
Comment by Paul Graydon on June 14, 2010 at 11:43am
I'm inclined to play it safe. You never know if your site is going to be slashdotted/redditted etc. There is no real harm in running it on even your smallest blog, so you might as well put it there "just in case". Better that than suddenly find your webhost asking you to take your business elsewhere!
Comment by Rob Bertholf on June 14, 2010 at 11:40am
Hi Paul, I also use caching on larger wordpress sites, very helpful!
Comment by Paul Graydon on June 14, 2010 at 11:38am
plugins like wp-cache and wp-supercache are essential for any wordpress blogger. 99% of the time you're dealing with what can be static content. The only time that's different is on the 1% or so of sites that are getting dozens of comments per minute. Even then the archive is to all intents and purposes static. No point wasting server and end users time generating the page each time :)
Comment by MediaBaron on June 13, 2010 at 10:45pm
No more memory or cpu load problems for me on my WordPress site Had to do a crapload of updates to php code in my theme that I customized and hardened my WP install.

WP is humming right along again. Now I'll have to see what breaks with WP3.0
Comment by MediaBaron on May 7, 2010 at 1:07pm
I assume by now everyone has heard about WordPress being hacked on DreamHost and GoDaddy servers.
Comment by MediaBaron on May 3, 2010 at 12:15am
I have look at and considered Drupal, I've done some installs and have worked up some test sites with it. Even Drupal could be run better on Nginx rather than Apache server.

A long term solution would probably be to move away from WordPress or Drupal onto a more publishing based CMS.

We'll have to see what WordPress 3.0 and Drupal 7.0 pulls out of the hat.

One of the big problems with these CMS solutions is not so much the scaling on the client side, that's easy enough to fix using caching and CDN. But it's supporting content generation on the admin side of things.

On tsunami day a couple months ago we were slammed with over 40K hits in a very short time. We never went down and we just kept serving up pages. WordPress can handle the load if set-up properly.
Comment by Rob Bertholf on May 2, 2010 at 11:56pm
Hi Baron,
Have you considered Drupal? I have found Drupal to be much more robust when dealing with heavier sites. Check out for performance based Drupal hosting. I spoke at DrupalCon SF a few weeks ago at the Moscone center in San Fran on SEO and was able to sit in on Josh Koenig's amazing presentation on Mercury and Drupal performance hosting.

Again, I am a huge WordPress fan, but when you are looking to step it up a notch, Drupal may be the solution.

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