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What are three ways that the UH ICS program could improve?

If you can think of more than three things, then please limit your response to your top three!

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Three bad things about being an ICS student.

1. Class Time is not friendly for students that do no drive, For example, ICS 212 which is in the evening.

2. Lack of Space. Because of the lack of sections and space in the ICS program, most classes are full fast. Which lead to waiting for a whole semester before taking the class.

3. Stressful. Homework can be very stressful sometimes and time-consuming. 

The requirements for the major have gone through some changes and can be a little prohibitive at times. I decided on majoring in ICS a year in to my university career and have had to do some backtracking to take classes required for upper division ICS classes. While this is completely reasonable, as the classes required are especially important for ICS courses, it can make things a little annoying for students who are still undecided and exploring different things when they first start college.

More class availability. This is a kind of unavoidable, as it is highly dependent on the availability of professors, but more classes and options to choose from is always nice as a student

Some way to incorporate more "real world" experience. I do not really feel like I have had any experience with what it is like actually working in the ICS field so far. Internships do this, but it would be nice if there were opportunities in the program itself.

Three bad things about being a UH ICS student:

  1. Assignments can be time-consuming and sometimes difficult.
  2. Class Scheduling is not often nice to the student. There are a limited amount of sections that are available for specific courses which can cause problems with seating. Some classes have a stressful start time. A common example is ICS 212 which starts during the evening and ends late at night.
  3. Need more available resources that students can seek if they need additional help such as more tutors or more credible sites. 

1. The topics can be very challenging. In order to succeed in courses, students must be passionate about the subject area and be motivated to work hard to grasp new concepts. Courses can be fast-paced and filled with a plethora of important information. 

2. The course load can be heavy. Although learning new programming languages and skills are enjoyable, it can also be extremely time consuming. 

3. Some courses are offered only in one semester (either Fall or Spring) and not both semesters. Having class availability that is always guaranteed would be an improvement. 

1) One bad about being an ICS student in which the UH ICS program can improve is providing more ICS courses. Majority of specific ICS courses are either rarely provided or don't have enough space for others to enroll in. Students end up having to wait for another semester to take classes they really are interested in or are required to take. 

2) The exams and lack of projects! I personally feel that most of the ICS courses provide a lot of theory and exams (with the exception of ICS 314) and lack having actually projected that students can put on their professional portfolio. When you think about it, it would be better to have professors have big projects rather than a final exam, since not only are they putting the skills to work on a real-life but it can be something they can show to future employers. Being book smart is one thing, but being able to apply the skills you learned in the real world is another more important thing! 

3) Compared to the Mainland, the UH ICS program isn't considered competitive. I want the UH ICS program to be more prestigious something that tech employers can be impressed with when they see the University of Hawaii at Manoa on a resume.  

1. Amount of work. The amount of work that starts to pile up when you are deep in a packed semester can be a lot in ICS. It is easy to get to a point where you are bouncing around between multiple different subjects trying to stay afloat.

2. Better course descriptions and availability. It is sometimes hard to understand what is covered in some of the classes due to a lack of information or change in the way the class is done. Sometimes the only way is to find someone that just recently took the class. I understand why but also when you get to the point of having to balance fall or spring only offered courses it can become a real headache.

3. More help and access to tools. The study rooms labs are lacking both knowledgeable mentors and tools that could push students farther.

1. Languages become defunct or outdated quickly.

2. Our major doesn't provide as much opportunity for becoming more proficient in writing or communicating with others as majors in the humanities do. Both of these things are important in a professional environment.

3. Getting internships is highly competitive and it's common for many people your age/year to have more experience than you if they were introduced to CS much earlier.

1) While this is not true for most of the ICS professors, it is clear that some of the professors in the department do care as much about their students as they do their research. 

2) We don't do enough application-specific learning, outside of coding everything I have learned is theoretical.  While I don't doubt this will be useful, it would be good to learn things I can actually apply today.

3) Many of the professors in the ICS department have implemented a flipped classroom, and while for some classes this works really well, often the time in class I feel is not utilized well as a result.

1. I personally don't think the lower-level ICS class prepared me for the higher-level courses.

2. I think the ICS department should "keep their finger on the pulse" for their classes, for example, java is not available for businesses, production, and commercial without them needing to paying for it, as a result, they are starting to transition out of java.  Some of the ICS classes are learning java and I think it would be a better use of time if we could learn other programming languages.  

3. Personally I don't like the "flipped classroom" types of classes I wish I could be taught things in ICS rather than self-studying. 

1.) Work and coding can be very time consuming and may affect doing work for other classes or having any free time.

2.) Having to go through debugging whether you have a minor syntax error or just completely wrong can be stressful.

3). This can apply to being a student in general but especially for ics, falling behind can be very detrimental to learning ics material and can really hurt your grade. 

1. Having more emphasis on communicating between other ICS students to create projects, collaborate, and more.

2. The beginner courses might be too easy and unnecessary for future ICS classes.

3. It would be nice to have more specific ICS courses (for your focus) in the beginning (freshman year).

Materials being self-taught rather than taught by the professors

Certain courses do not prepare enough for the next course that follows; professors in courses that follow a previous usually say “what did they teach you in ‘previous course’?”

Lack of tutoring for difficult upper division courses



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