Aloha on Rails - Regional Rails Conference Hosted Here in Hawaii

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Permalink Reply by Daniel Leuck on March 10, 2009 at 1:37pm

Sounds great! If you stick Aloha on Rails in the calendar we will feature it.

I can make some inquiries re: the venue for you.

Permalink Reply by Seth Ladd on March 10, 2009 at 1:38pm

as soon as I know a date, I'm definitely posting it to TechHui. I should know in the next two weeks.

Of course, if anyone can recommend a venue, I'd love to chat with them.

Permalink Reply by Brian McQuay on March 10, 2009 at 3:09pm

Aloha,

I'm interested though the Aloha on Rails site would likely be more of a hit if it was built in Rails rather than php. At least that's what the header link is showing, index.php which 404s by the way.

Also, your sponsor link on that site is missing the p in http.

Keep us posted, thanks

Permalink Reply by Seth Ladd on March 10, 2009 at 3:41pm

Thanks for the head's up Brian, fixed the HTML.

Permalink Reply by Laurence A. Lee on March 10, 2009 at 3:57pm

It'll be interesting to see how Rails fares over the next 6 to 12 months.

Too many of the "Smart People" who used to do Rails have recently been blogging about being disenchanted with Rails' flaws; several competing frameworks are kicking Rails' butt in terms of performance; and now with Merb assimilated to become "Rails 3.0", I can't help but think that the transition to Rails 3.0 will be a huge problem begging for a Mass-Exodus to something more properly managed.

I'd love to be proven wrong on that, as Rails Developers have been becoming ridiculously cheap to outsource recently... but chances are all the Power-Developers will have moved on to Sinatra, Camping, Ramaze, or Django by then. :-7

Permalink Reply by Seth Ladd on March 11, 2009 at 9:46am

Laurence,

Questioning "authority" is healthy for any ecosystem. What makes Aloha on Rails a strong conference is its upfront acknowledge that Rails is The Way, not that The Way is Rails. We fully intend to have sessions on "What you can learn from Django", for instance.

While I don't get the sense that the "Smart People" are leaving Rails because of flaws (what flaws?) there will always be a new, shiny toy that distracts those that are attracted only to that which no one else uses. That is, every technology has adoption curves, and there will always be those that will migrate away once the technology becomes mainstream.

Which highlights a strength of Rails... it's essentially mainstream now, which is an excellent validation of the framework and its core principles. Rails might go away at some point (but don't be mistaken, it's here for a VERY long time) its principles of "batteries included" and "convention over configuration" have forever changed the landscape of web frameworks (and for the better, I might add)

And while you might be able to pay $15/hr for Rails development, I guarantee that you *get what you pay for*

Permalink Reply by Brooke Fujita on March 21, 2009 at 4:31am

Er, I thought "batteries included" was the catchphrase for the Python Standard Library? ;-)

... its principles of "batteries included" and "convention over configuration" have forever changed the landscape of web frameworks (and for the better, I might add)

Permalink Reply by Seth Ladd on March 21, 2009 at 7:14pm

Any environment where "batteries are included" is OK in my book!