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Three bad things about being an ICS student
If you can think of more than three things, then please limit your response to your top three!
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Permalink Reply by Keoni Fontanilla on
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1) It can be stressful. You must be willing to spend a lot of time on problems, homework, and projects.
2) Class Availability and prerequisites. You need to really plan out what classes you need to take for the semester.
3) Depending on the class and who is teaching it, you may have to learn the material on your own.
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Permalink Reply by Morgan Stremick on
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1. Some classes require you to spend upwards of $1000 on a laptop.
2. I would like to see more 400-level courses being offered per semester.
3. Based on my experiences alone, some of the ICS classes can be a bit hand-holdy. It would be nice if class projects were a bit more open-ended.
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Permalink Reply by Alicia Leong on
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1) The difficulty of each class varies a lot. Some are hard with a difficult work load while others are the complete opposite. Sometimes it feels like your skills have not improved as much as you like.
2) The fact that courses are only taught once a year. If you do not follow the program perfectly you could end up waiting a whole year before getting the chance to enroll in the courses that you need.
3) The cost of some required material (textbooks) that are not used in the class. -
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1. Class times are often only offered really late as compared to other classes that I take.
2. Required to take a lot of prerequisites/elective courses for major requirement.
3. Homeworks in general are extremely time-consuming, not allowing for a lot of time to be spent elsewhere.
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Permalink Reply by Dennis Kim on
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1. ICS courses are generally very time consuming. Students are always spending more time on homeworks and projects than students of other majors; generally coding or trying to understand concepts which were gone over in a short lecture.
2. UH ICS course structure is unstable; flipped courses require students to spend even more time at home doing lectures AND homeworks, projects, etc., some courses are available only once a year, not enough professors to teach courses, graduation requirements keep changing.
3. Investing in hardware.
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Permalink Reply by Darius DeSpain on
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1. Classes are often very dependent on each other, so they provide very little flexibility with making a class schedule.
2. Homeworks often require access to higher level computing capability than most other classes, costing the ICS student more money over the average student.
3. Lots of independent learning and time spent in front of a computer for assignments.
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Permalink Reply by Kevin Liu on
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1. The availabilities of certain classes can be an issue if it is only offered once a year, making it difficult for students to continue with their studies if they miss a specific class.
2. The heavy workload and time commitment that classes take may be detrimental in one's schedule if balancing multiple aspects.
3. More technical professional development workshops would be beneficial for students to grasp an understanding of the recruitment process.
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Permalink Reply by Ken Tung on
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- Better studying space for ICS students. Having only a small room that is also used by clubs for ICS students isn't enough. Especially when there is so many students in this department.
- More class availability/professors. There is usually only one or two professors teaching each ICS class which limits the amount of space open in each course. Also, it restricts the time availability. Some people don't want to take classes super late at 6pm-8pm for ICS 212 but everyone has to because only one class is available.
- More clubs that focus on different areas in CS. We all know CS has a lot industries within it, so why doesn't UH have more clubs? All there is is greyhats, aci, and data science. Those things do not interest everyone, if not most people in computer science, and we all know that.
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Permalink Reply by Joshua S. Cruz on
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1. Procrastinating and being lazy as an ICS will affect you on the long run and everything will stack up. To solve this, learn to manage your time and reward yourself after completing small/large tasks.
2. Working on a code for hours can be stressful and take a toll on people's mental health. Students may feel demoralized and demotivated to complete or finish any unsolved work. To solve this, learn to use your resources available to you on campus or off campus.
3. For any type of student, textbook costs are always a bad thing.
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Permalink Reply by Ryan Li on
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1. Some of the courses are scheduled at a later time so it conflicts with work/projects.
2. A lot of prerequisites for classes
3. more python courses
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What are three ways that the UH ICS program could improve?
I would like to disclose that this is my first semester at UH since I transferred from KCC.
1. The requirement to buy a laptop. It is true that an ICS student should have bought a laptop to work if in the ICS program, but for me spending $1200+ on a laptop is quite expensive. Coming from KCC where they provided computers or held classes in the computer labs this was not an issue for me. But I can understand the reason behind the requirement of a students own laptop.
2. The lack of the use of laulima. At KCC all of my professors used laulima to assign homework, post updates about class, and sometimes even the slides to help the students who couldn't write down notes as fast as others. But so far not only the current ICS class I am taking, but every class at UH that I am taking doesn't utilize laulima, coming from a school that constantly used one website that all classes used, to now being required to use several different websites for each class has been hard to adapt to, but adapting nonetheless.
3. The stress from the transfer from KCC to UH ICS program. The stress from the transfer is less of the process from going to UH an more of the result of the transfer, as listed above KCC didn't require laptops and would post everything on laulima to help update the students. This is more of an issue for me and less of a thing that the UH ICS program could improve on, if something then maybe informing transferring students about the differences in campuses.
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Permalink Reply by Shawn Anthony on
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1. Mandatory lower level classes that are only offered in a single time slot at night.
2. Different professors wanting a specific style or set of rules for the code written in their class.
3. Not having a wider range of languages and platforms covered by electives to help focus on a specific aspect of the tech field after graduation.
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