Comments - Tech Start-up Visa Redux - TechHui2024-03-29T11:50:26Zhttp://www.techhui.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=1702911%3ABlogPost%3A77352&xn_auth=noAloha Tony: Its true that im…tag:www.techhui.com,2011-03-24:1702911:Comment:779662011-03-24T00:42:08.407ZJohn Robert Eganhttp://www.techhui.com/profile/JohnEgan
<p>Aloha Tony: Its true that immigration policy overall is (and should be) a federal issue. However, a few states and some cities have started to actively encourage immigrant entrepreneurs because of the measurable economic benefits. The <a href="http://immigrationimpact.com/2011/03/08/some-states-try-to-harness-the-economic-power-of-immigrant-entrepreneurs/" target="_blank">Immigration Policy Center recently featured</a> New York City's efforts to attract immigrant businesses. And the U.S.…</p>
<p>Aloha Tony: Its true that immigration policy overall is (and should be) a federal issue. However, a few states and some cities have started to actively encourage immigrant entrepreneurs because of the measurable economic benefits. The <a href="http://immigrationimpact.com/2011/03/08/some-states-try-to-harness-the-economic-power-of-immigrant-entrepreneurs/" target="_blank">Immigration Policy Center recently featured</a> New York City's efforts to attract immigrant businesses. And the U.S. Chamber of Commerce has published a report documenting the positive effects of high-skilled immigration <a href="http://www.uschamber.com/sites/default/files/reports/100811_skilledvisastudy_execsummary.pdf" target="_blank">(Executive Summary here)</a>. In Massachusetts, Governor Deval Patrick has <a href="http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=gov3pressrelease&L=1&L0=Home&sid=Agov3&b=pressrelease&f=111709_newamericans_recommendations&csid=Agov3" target="_blank">established a task force</a> to advocate for improved of opportunities for immigrants.</p>
<p>In principle Hawaii could do any of these things, or take an altogether different approach. What do you think?</p> Immigration law is traditiona…tag:www.techhui.com,2011-03-23:1702911:Comment:779602011-03-23T19:14:29.165ZTony Donneshttp://www.techhui.com/profile/TonyDonnes
Immigration law is traditionally federal law, but there is an interaction with state law. And we know that states to some degree can add their own immigration statutes. Is there anything we can do here in Hawai‘i—at the state level—to increase our number of highly-skilled, foreign workers, entrepreneurs, etc.? I mean, Hawai‘i cannot implement its own "start up visa" program, but what can it (we?) do?
Immigration law is traditionally federal law, but there is an interaction with state law. And we know that states to some degree can add their own immigration statutes. Is there anything we can do here in Hawai‘i—at the state level—to increase our number of highly-skilled, foreign workers, entrepreneurs, etc.? I mean, Hawai‘i cannot implement its own "start up visa" program, but what can it (we?) do? I would ask that politicians…tag:www.techhui.com,2011-03-22:1702911:Comment:777422011-03-22T08:00:09.179ZJohn Robert Eganhttp://www.techhui.com/profile/JohnEgan
I would ask that politicians hold back on using immigration as wedge issue, and observe the economic vitality immigrant entrepreneurs bring to Americaʻs efforts to compete in our globalized world.
I would ask that politicians hold back on using immigration as wedge issue, and observe the economic vitality immigrant entrepreneurs bring to Americaʻs efforts to compete in our globalized world. You nailed it Brian. The poli…tag:www.techhui.com,2011-03-22:1702911:Comment:773922011-03-22T02:47:51.868ZDaniel Leuckhttp://www.techhui.com/profile/dleuck
You nailed it Brian. The politicians' xenophobic rhetoric is based on the false assumption of a zero sum gain.
You nailed it Brian. The politicians' xenophobic rhetoric is based on the false assumption of a zero sum gain. > P.S. Maybe it's because…tag:www.techhui.com,2011-03-22:1702911:Comment:773902011-03-22T02:43:30.378ZCameron Souzahttp://www.techhui.com/profile/CameronSouza
<p>> P.S. Maybe it's because politics is a zero sum game? Either I'm elected or you're elected..</p>
<p>> There's no way "we" can win.</p>
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<p>Thats an interesting thought. Maybe that does shape their view of the world. Its always me or you, never we.</p>
<p>> P.S. Maybe it's because politics is a zero sum game? Either I'm elected or you're elected..</p>
<p>> There's no way "we" can win.</p>
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<p>Thats an interesting thought. Maybe that does shape their view of the world. Its always me or you, never we.</p> P.S. Maybe it's because polit…tag:www.techhui.com,2011-03-22:1702911:Comment:771222011-03-22T02:02:39.421ZBrianhttp://www.techhui.com/profile/Brian268
P.S. Maybe it's because politics is a zero sum game? Either I'm elected or you're elected.. There's no way "we" can win.
P.S. Maybe it's because politics is a zero sum game? Either I'm elected or you're elected.. There's no way "we" can win. The core issue, in my observa…tag:www.techhui.com,2011-03-22:1702911:Comment:774642011-03-22T02:01:23.226ZBrianhttp://www.techhui.com/profile/Brian268
<p>The core issue, in my observation, when (idiotic) politicians get involved in driving policies that shape the economy substantially is the mistaken notion that economics is a 'splitting up the pie' zero sum game.</p>
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<p>So we're told we need to "Fear China" and engage in trade protectionism. All this will do is leave us behind and make us poorer. We're basically handicapping ourselves.</p>
<p>The core issue, in my observation, when (idiotic) politicians get involved in driving policies that shape the economy substantially is the mistaken notion that economics is a 'splitting up the pie' zero sum game.</p>
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<p>So we're told we need to "Fear China" and engage in trade protectionism. All this will do is leave us behind and make us poorer. We're basically handicapping ourselves.</p> The namby-pamby "lets be nice…tag:www.techhui.com,2011-03-21:1702911:Comment:774622011-03-21T23:58:55.829ZPaul Graydonhttp://www.techhui.com/profile/Paul76
The namby-pamby "lets be nice to the locals" approach has also helped engender the entitlement attitude in a number of generations. Kids are graduating with a belief that they are entitled to a good job with good pay to fund a lavish lifestyle :) Used to cruising through life, and the suddenly having a shock when they don't get that great pay, and find themselves stuck in crappy jobs. Politicians should be asking "Where is the incentive for our kids?" not "How can we appease the masses by…
The namby-pamby "lets be nice to the locals" approach has also helped engender the entitlement attitude in a number of generations. Kids are graduating with a belief that they are entitled to a good job with good pay to fund a lavish lifestyle :) Used to cruising through life, and the suddenly having a shock when they don't get that great pay, and find themselves stuck in crappy jobs. Politicians should be asking "Where is the incentive for our kids?" not "How can we appease the masses by removing competition" The counter-argument against…tag:www.techhui.com,2011-03-21:1702911:Comment:773872011-03-21T23:39:29.130ZDaniel Leuckhttp://www.techhui.com/profile/dleuck
<blockquote>The counter-argument against high-skilled immigration is that allowing international workers into the workforce displaces American workers.</blockquote>
The Economist had a great article about this a few months back. This argument is popular with politicians but, as you mentioned, all evidence is to the contrary. Adding smart, educated and motivated people to your economy is a net positive no matter how you slice it. Companies have an insatiable appetite for top engineers and…
<blockquote>The counter-argument against high-skilled immigration is that allowing international workers into the workforce displaces American workers.</blockquote>
The Economist had a great article about this a few months back. This argument is popular with politicians but, as you mentioned, all evidence is to the contrary. Adding smart, educated and motivated people to your economy is a net positive no matter how you slice it. Companies have an insatiable appetite for top engineers and scientists. The more of them, the better. If it makes poor performers who have grown complacent pick up their game thats OK :-) Its time for us to give up our obsession with where a person of good character who has the desire and the means to contribute to our economy happens to have been born. Forcing top students to go back to their countries when they graduate is not a winning strategy.<br/> Aloha Brian: Thanks for your…tag:www.techhui.com,2011-03-21:1702911:Comment:774492011-03-21T06:31:00.061ZJohn Robert Eganhttp://www.techhui.com/profile/JohnEgan
<p>Aloha Brian: Thanks for your comments. In this context "American workers" would be U.S. citizens and/or green card holders, as opposed to workers on temporary work permission. The counter-argument against high-skilled immigration is that allowing international workers into the workforce displaces American workers. Recent research indicates that this is not the case in the area of high tech, knowledge intensive industries.</p>
<p>Aloha Brian: Thanks for your comments. In this context "American workers" would be U.S. citizens and/or green card holders, as opposed to workers on temporary work permission. The counter-argument against high-skilled immigration is that allowing international workers into the workforce displaces American workers. Recent research indicates that this is not the case in the area of high tech, knowledge intensive industries.</p>