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iPad: Looks Great, but Needs Flash

The iPad looks great, but Apple (read: Steve) really needs to get over its aversion to Flash.
Those little blue cubes on your favorite video sites and Flex apps will quickly grow tiring. Nevertheless, the Kindle is toast.

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Permalink Reply by Gus Higuera on January 28, 2010 at 9:19am
I just read an article that really opened my eyes to the functionality of the Ipad. This article is saying how the Ipad is a huge step backwards in computing since it's basically a giant, DRM based piece of hardware. The Ipad won't let you run any apps unless Apple specifically approves them to be included in the app store. This got me thinking. Wow, they are totally right. Having such a revolutionary device and restricting is so heavily is a huge disadvantage. If I bought a new Netbook, I would want to install and do anything I want to it instead of Apple holding my hand and cashing in on every app I put on the thing. Here's an excerpt from the article, and the full one

SAN FRANCISCO, California, USA -- Wednesday, January 27, 2010 -- As Steve Jobs and Apple prepared to announce their new tablet device, activists opposed to Digital Restrictions Management (DRM) from the group Defective by Design were on hand to draw the media's attention to the increasing restrictions that Apple is placing on general purpose computers. The group set up "Apple Restriction Zones" along the approaches to the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco, informing journalists of the rights they would have to give up to Apple before proceeding inside.

DRM is used by Apple to restrict users' freedom in a variety of ways, including blocking installation of software that comes from anywhere except the official Application Store, and regulating every use of movies downloaded from iTunes. Apple furthermore claims that circumventing these restrictions is a criminal offense, even for purposes that are permitted by copyright law.

Organizing the protest, Free Software Foundation (FSF) operations manager John Sullivan said, "Our Defective by Design campaign has a successful history of targeting Apple over its DRM policies. We organized actions and protests targeting iTunes music DRM outside Apple stores, and under the pressure Steve Jobs dropped DRM on music. We're here today to send the same message about the other restrictions Apple is imposing on software, ebooks, and movies. If Jobs and Apple are actually committed to creativity, freedom, and individuality, they should prove it by eliminating the restrictions that make creativity and freedom illegal."
Permalink Reply by Gus Higuera on January 28, 2010 at 1:22pm
Funny how Steve Jobs was browsing around on his Ipad in the demo and came across the no flash plug in screen. Here's an article about The NYT without Flash
Permalink Reply by Cameron Souza on January 28, 2010 at 2:05pm
I noticed that! Too funny. They really need flash on iPad and on the next iPhone OS update. Its on too many sites to ignore.

Gus Higuera said:
Funny how Steve Jobs was browsing around on his Ipad in the demo and came across the no flash plug in screen. Here's an article about The NYT without Flash
Permalink Reply by Matthew Faull on January 30, 2010 at 2:32am
It needs a webcam, 2 usb ports and an sd slot. An alternative method to load on media (i.e. outside iTunes would be nice) but its apple so...

Right now its a sexy looking neutered net book with the keyboard sliced off, or maybe an oversized phone that is harder to jam in your pocket than a P series VAIO.

No doubt the magazines will jump on this. The people that like being able to lock down their media distribution and also want it to go out on a colour display.
Permalink Reply by Ken Berkun on January 31, 2010 at 12:22pm
Permalink Reply by Daniel Leuck on January 31, 2010 at 12:52pm
So Mr. Jobs thinks Google is full of crap and Adobe's people are "lazy". Way to spread good karma buddy. I wish someone would tell Steve his information on Flash and Java are 10 years out of date. I also like his comment that "The world is moving to HTML 5". Well... if that is in fact happening its being lead by Google. Get over yourself and support Flash.

Steve is a brilliant guy, but he needs to remember to take his happy pills. Brian - I generally agree with your opinion of the iPad. I think its a great idea, but v1 is half baked. I'll wait for iPad 2.

Ken Berkun said:
Permalink Reply by Konstantin A Lukin on March 4, 2010 at 2:23pm
Just going through the article, pretty amazing comments:

Here’s a couple of Steve’s (inexact) quotes from the meeting: “Adobe is lazy. Apple does not support Flash because it is so buggy. Whenever a Mac crashes more often than not it’s because of Flash. No one will be using Flash. The world is moving to HTML5.”
I'd probably have to agree with this, as HTML5 has potential to outrun Flash relatively quickly.. but Google supports Flash just fine, so no problem..

When it comes to Google, Jobs is mad at them for trying to “kill the iPhone.” “We did not enter the search business,” he said. “They entered the phone business. Make no mistake: they want to kill the iPhone. We won’t let them.”
Now this is something I'd have to disagree with. It is natural for Google to enter Phone business, however it would not be so for Apple to enter search. Google makes Android, which is an open source platform. I've seriously heard a lot of complaints from a lot of developers/techies about 'closed-ness' of the iPhone platform (hence iPhone break-ins/etc..) I think this is relevant to the iPad because Apple can make the same 'kill iPad' claim. IMO it is bogus, since iPhone's strong features are ease of use and durability, while they are also having a number of weak ones.. which is where other companies, like Google, are making a better progress. IMO a comment like that suggests that iPhone is the 'holy grail' in mobile devices, which is an arguable assumption.

Finally, his most interesting quote is about Google’s “don’t be evil” mantra. According to Daring Fireball, Jobs simply said: “It’s a load of crap.”... Google is now Apple’s greatest enemy.
Heh, seriously.. my wife has an iPhone, while I have a Google phone, so what seems to be the problem?.., as we get along just fine..

Full article here:
http://mashable.com/2010/02/01/steve-jobs-google-adobe/

Permalink Reply by Konstantin A Lukin on March 4, 2010 at 3:05pm
IMO, solution to Apple-Adobe-Google trio is to partner to create the next generation web-enabled devices. Each company has something to bring to the table. They need to get together to discuss how consumer can be benefited by their alliance.

Apple
- great hardware
- very nice UX, polished look & feel

Adobe
- king of media content generation

Google
- king of search, maps, online infrastructure
- great open source mobile
- community fiberoptic
Permalink Reply by Konstantin A Lukin on March 4, 2010 at 3:45pm
Apologies for frequent posts on this, but ideas keep coming.. Alliance could work out pretty nicely, given that Apple can produce killer hardware and make sure all UX is squeaky clean. Adobe can take a task of converting all their 'premium' products into HTML5 and make them freely available with some kind of fremium-based model. Google can provide online infrastructure, search, and killer cloud software to power next-generation web-enabled devices. Not to forget Microsoft, as it could make sure everyone gets an affordable (alliance built) net-book with state-of-art enabled features :) I hear they also have pretty good lawyers, which could be helpful to keep such an alliance in place. Otherwise software/hardware giants will keep playing tag of war, which has least benefit for the end consumer. (IMO)
Permalink Reply by Kevin Luttrell on March 4, 2010 at 5:30pm
Besides that fact that the iPad sounds like a tampon, the no Flash mantra is just dumb; Period. I'm in the middle of a huge Flash website project and during today's production meeting I was asked if it could be seen on the iPad. After a heated discussion on started over, it just seems silly to trash things on speculation that it will replace a laptop.

We either A) get in lockstep with him against Adobe and scrap all Flash projects to make Apple friendly web apps, or B) flip Jobs the bird and continue to make Flash content knowing full well that the iPad (sounds more like a tampon now) can't keep up with 99% of browsers. HTML5 is way off in the distance and not really in the game--or this wouldn't be an issue. I'll keep working with Flash and let Apple listen to their customers' complain about being barred from viewing Flashed web content. One can understand with the iphone but I think there's an expectation that this iPad should function like a standard laptop --with full web browsing.
Permalink Reply by Kevin Luttrell on March 5, 2010 at 9:00am
Wow, I just looked over my post and noticed a ton of spelling and grammar errors. Serves me right for making an emotional post after 8 hours of writing action script. Anyway , totally agree w/ Brian. Moving tech forward (like HTML5) is good in the long run but far too often people want to jump on things too soon. It's like cheating in a relationship that's already working. It might be exciting at first but then you realize how good you had it before screwing it up. My relationship with Flash isn't broken and I have not desire to cheat on it. Too bad Steve Jobs doesn't want to play in our sandbox.
Permalink Reply by Konstantin A Lukin on March 5, 2010 at 9:19am
Agreed about Flash. There are a lot of websites out there that currently use Flash. It would be very descent of major software providers to support everyone in their development efforts. Flash is not going away any time soon. HTML5 is still in it's infancy stages. So in the meantime, Flash is the solution.

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