an abundance of recruiters - TechHui2024-03-28T12:50:17Zhttp://www.techhui.com/forum/topics/an-abundance-of-recruiters?commentId=1702911%3AComment%3A44803&feed=yes&xn_auth=noLawsuits against corporations…tag:www.techhui.com,2009-06-20:1702911:Comment:448032009-06-20T02:55:05.066ZNizwer Husainhttp://www.techhui.com/profile/NizwerHusain
Lawsuits against corporations from 1099 contractors is so rare as to make the news every time it occurs. What is more likely is that if a highly paid consultant hung in there for any length of time the company usually makes them an offer to become a full time employee (happened to me several times) to save money. And it is not hard to do an S-Corp so the engagement is Corp to corp and not a 1099.<br />
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The argument that less vendors to deal with involves less paperwork or accounting headache is hard…
Lawsuits against corporations from 1099 contractors is so rare as to make the news every time it occurs. What is more likely is that if a highly paid consultant hung in there for any length of time the company usually makes them an offer to become a full time employee (happened to me several times) to save money. And it is not hard to do an S-Corp so the engagement is Corp to corp and not a 1099.<br />
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The argument that less vendors to deal with involves less paperwork or accounting headache is hard to swallow. With every entity down the sub contractor chain there is more paperwork, more delays in communications and the consultant usually gets paid very late. On at least one occasion I have had to fill two time cards one for the "recruiter" and one for the client. One online and the other not online but requiring my signature and the supervisor's approval signature. Remember, every expense for each consultant has to be scrutinized carefully even if it came consolidated from one vendor.<br />
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What I am trying to draw attention to is that recruiters have somehow got the "inside exclusive connection" and using that to the fullest extent to reduce the consulting rate that winds up in the consultant's pocket. If the recruiter pocketed $10 / hour which is very common then at 160 hours a month that is $1600 each month from just one contractor. Place 10 people and you have a steady stream of $16000 / month. This has to be a housebody's dream to become a recruiter riding on that one "inside connection". And a $10 per hour markup is very conservative. Quite often it is higher than that.<br />
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The other day a recruiter asked me what is Ruby on Rails. Well it is certainly not someone wearing expensive jewelry taking a train ride. We can only urge companies to advertise their jobs inviting applications from "principals only, no recruiters please" A lot of companies don't like…tag:www.techhui.com,2009-06-19:1702911:Comment:447882009-06-19T22:40:43.773ZDavid Jacobshttp://www.techhui.com/profile/DavidJacobs
A lot of companies don't like to hire contractors on a 1099 basis because of the risk of them being classified as employees by the IRS and the employer being on the hook for back benefits and taxes. So from an employer perspective, contract shops that provide contractors with w-2s provide a layer of protection. For larger companies there is also the issue of dealing with too many vendors. They like the consolidation a body shop can provide from a paperwork perspective.
A lot of companies don't like to hire contractors on a 1099 basis because of the risk of them being classified as employees by the IRS and the employer being on the hook for back benefits and taxes. So from an employer perspective, contract shops that provide contractors with w-2s provide a layer of protection. For larger companies there is also the issue of dealing with too many vendors. They like the consolidation a body shop can provide from a paperwork perspective. At $employer-1 I was employed…tag:www.techhui.com,2009-06-19:1702911:Comment:447372009-06-19T05:05:49.509ZPaul Graydonhttp://www.techhui.com/profile/Paul76
At $employer-1 I was employed as a sysadmin. From March time through to the beginning of August I was left working alone whilst my boss was pulling his hair out trying to get another sysadmin. Stupid thing was we were seeing plenty of posts on certain e-mail lists for UK sysadmins, but HR was insisting on using a recruitment agency who would send resumes from the must inappropriate people you could imagine.<br />
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Given we were managing freebsd, solaris, debian and ubuntu boxes, we kept getting what…
At $employer-1 I was employed as a sysadmin. From March time through to the beginning of August I was left working alone whilst my boss was pulling his hair out trying to get another sysadmin. Stupid thing was we were seeing plenty of posts on certain e-mail lists for UK sysadmins, but HR was insisting on using a recruitment agency who would send resumes from the must inappropriate people you could imagine.<br />
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Given we were managing freebsd, solaris, debian and ubuntu boxes, we kept getting what Brits nickname "Purple Shirt Brigade", people that work for a certain UK retail computer store where employees have purple uniforms, a bit like CompUSA here I guess. People who at best would have been dealing with Mom and Pop's Windows laptop or computer, with absolutely no *nix experience whatsoever.<br />
HR insisted despite all the evidence we could show of good people looking for jobs that "there just weren't the right people out there" and the agency we were using was "the best in the field."<br />
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In the end my boss (with his bosses permission) used a proper technical recruitment agency with a decent reputation who returned us several very good resumes. Within a couple of weeks of contacting that agency for the first time, we had a new sysadmin ready to join the team. HR hit the roof and nearly point blank refused to go employ him until they were over ruled. Oh my God is Algomod!
About…tag:www.techhui.com,2009-06-18:1702911:Comment:446942009-06-18T23:01:29.681ZStephen McMahonhttp://www.techhui.com/profile/slmcmahon
Oh my God is Algomod!<br />
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About 6 years ago, I put in my resume that I had written software that interfaces with SAP and Siebel via e*Gate. I otherwise have 0 knowledge about Siebel or SAP. But Algomod's records show that I can program AND administer Siebel. I used to get frequent notifications of opportunities for eGate development -- don't know how to do that either. Sometimes I want to point out their obvious ignorance, but then I think about how I…
Oh my God is Algomod! <br />
<p style="text-align: left;"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/299202621?profile=original" alt="" width="699" height="457"></p> About 6 years ago, I put in my resume that I had written software that interfaces with SAP and Siebel via e*Gate. I otherwise have 0 knowledge about Siebel or SAP. But Algomod's records show that I can program AND administer Siebel. I used to get frequent notifications of opportunities for eGate development -- don't know how to do that either. Sometimes I want to point out their obvious ignorance, but then I think about how I might need them one day...